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Excuse the Blood: Norwegian Black Metal
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AAAAARRRRSSHRIRIEKKFK - try to yell that loudly over a chainsaw in use and microphone feedback. That's basically what black metal sounds like. It was big in Norway in the 90s. What was also big then was black metal musicians and their fans burning down churches and murdering people. Happy Halloween!
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Ep. 52
Ever hear Norwegian black metal?
[music]
Well, now you have.
Krakstad, Norway April 1991
Per Yngve "Pelle" Ohlin, popularly known by his stage name, “Dead” was the lyricist and lead vocalist of Norwegian Black Metal band Mayhem. Dead himself was a popular and iconic figure on the scene. He struggled with depression, the very definition of a morbid personality. He got his stage name from having been clinically dead once as a child. And for the rest of his life, he was very eager to get back to wherever he had gone..
Dead was very into the black metal scene, very into the ethos of spreading hatred and evil and destruction, and the theatrical and very gruesome trappings, and his work called to the dark hearted sort of person, whether they bought the Satanic act or not.
Dead seemed like a believer, though. And his thanos-themed behavior was outlandish. Hed didn’t fool around. He would keep a dead crow in a plastic bag with him. And beore he went on stage, he would open the bag and take a deep whiff of the bird corpse inside so he could perform with the scent of death in his nostrils. True story. As you’ve probably guessed. There is no Kids Bop version of Norwegian black metal
An interesting fact about Dead is that writers who black metal scene in Norway often theorized that Dead had cotard’s syndrome, a rare psychological condition where a person thinks they are dead - a walking corpse. Maybe so,
Dead and his bandmates, who went by Euronymous and Hellhammer, were staying in a house in the woods near Krakstad, writing their next album and rehearsing.
One evening, Euronymous and Hellhammer arrived home to find the front door locked. They had to climb in a window, because Dead was the only one with house keys.
They found Dead dead, having slit his wrists and throat and followed those acts up with a shotgun blast to his head. His nearby suicide note started off with a polite request for his bandmates to “excuse all the blood”
Whereas some people would panic, dial the Norwegian equivalent of 911, and being to mourn their bandmate and friend, this was Mayhem.
Before they called the police, Euronymous went into town and purchased a disposable camera. He returned, and took several photographs of Dead’s corpse. He even moved it and placed various items on it. One of the pictures ended up becoming the cover to a bootleg of one of Mayhem’s live performances. Welcome to the Norway's black metal scene.
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It’s my favorite time of year! It’s when straight people dress up in slutty costumes, gay dudes dress up in even sluttier costumes than them, and masked murderers chase final girls across our screens and the leaves turn color and I love when everything dies. You’d think I was into Norwegian black metal. I’m not (you heard a couple of seconds of it at the beginning and a kindly no thank you. Gaga has a new track out, though. It’s good!).
I’ve never been a metal guy. Which is kinda funny cuz’ some of my besties growing up were huge into it. I mean, I can get behind some of it. There’s some Led Zeppelin songs I don't mind, and they were super into the eternally beloved Canadian progrock kings Rush, and I can deal with some of their stuff too (Rush had lyrics about gay dude friends way before Mackelmore was marrying men in videos.). I had to drive around with them listening to Helloween and Queensryche and all these other metal bands all the time in high school etc etc etc and I really just wanted to listen to Madonna. It’s funny, though. When I know something about that genre of music I usually get a “aren’t you supposed to be listening to Kylie/how do you know that: look. I like keeping people mystified.
There is a gay criminal in tonight’s episode, but he’s actually not our focus. I wanted to do something creepy cuz’ it’s the witching hours, and I read up on this kinda music, which actually spawned a whole lifestyle for its fans. Of which a large percentage in the 90s was into Satanic stuff, animal entrails, burning down churches, urging their fellow bandmembers to commit suicide, and finally, murder. I mean this is a subset of rock n roll that uses dead people as album covers. It’s A LOT.
So, yeah, I’m gonna use a gay guy known as Gaahl, the lead singer of a band called Gogoroth, as the hook to fit the Wicked Gay criteria, but then I’m gonna get fully into this fascinating and often frightening subculture and it’s central figures. Where the REALLY fucked up people are all straight. Per usual. Joke. Sorta. Wait statistically speaking, straight people commit more crimes, right? Someone do the math, I can’t make change in my head.
So, this is episode 52, Excuse the blood: Norwegian Black Metal
Oh, and something I should point out - black metal and death metal are not the same. Witness:
According to Google - Death metal is known for its accelerated tempos, distorted guitars, thunderous percussion, and guttural vocals. Death metal's lyrics often address gruesome topics and transgressive imagery. Death metal is more about extremity of sound, while black metal is more about extremity of emotion.
Black metal is also known for its fast tempos, distorted guitars, but black metal’s vocals are typically shrieking not gutteral, and their emphasis is on atmosphere. Black metal's lyrics are often anti-Christian or satanic, and artists often wear corpse paint and use pseudonyms.
Death metal is known for its accelerated tempos, distorted guitars, thunderous percussion, and guttural vocals. Death metal's lyrics often address gruesome topics and transgressive imagery. Death metal is more about extremity of sound, while black metal is more about extremity of emotion.
And I thought they were the same. I also thought at first that black metal meant Living Color (memba them?) or maybe harder TV on the Radio songs but it didn’t.
Ok, if you’ve never heard of the black metal, I can probably catch you up with the vibe by reciting this list:
Carpathian Forest
Darkthrone
Enslaved
Gehenna (that’s often a synonym for hell)
Grimfist
Hades Almighty
Mayhem
Morgul
Mysticum
Nocturnal Breed
Obtained Enslavement
Ragnarok (that’s the Norse mythology’s prophesized version of the end of the world)
THou Shalt Suffer
Troll
Twin Obscenity
Zyklon B (you know, the cyanide gas the Germans used to murder millions of people. That’s a charming reference.)
Those are all Norwegian black metal bands. And those are just the ones I could find in English. If I spoke Norwegian I'm sure the other ones are just as effervescent..
The early Norwegian black metal scene of the 1990s is credited with shaping the modern black metal genre. And It began to make the headlines worldwide when it was discovered that some of its performers had been implicated in three murders, a suicide, and a wave of church burnings in Norway. Now there’s a story!
The scene’s major tenet was a complete rejection of religion aside from being into Satan and or various Satan stand-in demons. Christianity was/is public enemy number ones. And the cooler than cool inner circle of this scene, the core members used to refer to themselves as "The Black Circle" or "Black Metal Inner Circle." These dudes hung out at a record shop in Oslo, whose name was the Norwegian word for hell. I’m not even going to try and pronounce some of this stuff. When I try I embarrass myself and make you laugh and it’s not with me!
In interviews, members of the Black Circle expressed anti-Christian views and an all around hatred of humanity , and came off as a cult of militant Satanists looking to spread terror, hatred, and evil. They adopted pseudonyms and appeared in photographs adorned with "corpse paint" and wielding medieval weaponry. The scene was exclusive, creating boundaries around itself and incorporating only those it deemed "true" or committed. Musical integrity was paramount, and artists sought to maintain black metal's underground status.
And some kids/fans bought this and were very into the ethos, and others…well, kids are always going to embrace the stuff their parents are going to hate. I’m listening to Gorgoth in my room Dad leave me alone ok. But say that in Norwegian.
And here’s the thing, some of these guys were merely projecting an image. They were actually just entertainers and this shit was basically an Alice Cooper pose for them except way more gruesome. (for the young, he’s a guy who was big in the 70s/80s who did fun horror movie stuff on stage like fake beheading).
But a lot of them in the early 90s, the black circle and their followers, were the real deal. These guys started burning down churches. And people started dying.
But first, I want you to meet one of the less violent ones. Yes, he did once kidnap and torture a man and maybe drink his blood. But the guy survived. That makes Ghaal almost a wish-granting grandma teddy bear in THIS story. He’s basically the Betty White of black metal really.
And would you believe he’s gay. And had the balls to come out in the middle of all this hate stuff? Yeah, He’s a thug, but that must have taken a set, you know?
Kristian Eivind Espedal, better known by his stage name Gaahl, is a Norwegian black metal vocalist. I’d say singer but let’s be honest, that ain’t singing. He is best known as the former frontman of a band called Gorgoroth. He also founded some bands I can't pronounce the names of because they sound like IKEA furniture and he played with others I can't pronounce either,except one called God Seed. He’s so iconic in that scene that there’s a documentary about him called True Norwegian Black Metal.
Gaahl’s look was/is he’s still rocking, well, picture a guy in like Kiss makeup but looking a helluva lot more evil than say the cat guy, He was born in August of 1975 and spent his youth living in a sparsely populated valley called Espedal, in the municipality of Fjaler. These places sound like a lot of fishing goes on and the people are very blonde and fair skinned.
Gaahl got into metal in 1993, when he co-formed the band Trelldom, a band with a drummer called, and I am not making this up, Goat Pervertor. One black metal trait is that they’re not very nice to animals cuz they're so evil. Hence the guy on the skins apparently doing awful things to goats. Gaahl sorta went from band to band, recording tons of eps and albums with different dudes.
The band’s most associated with was Gogoroth, that name means land of great despair. He joined in 1998. Alongside the goat fucker, there was another dude named Tormentor and a guy named Infernus. It sounds like a really bad dungeon master wrote a really bad module, doesn’t it?
So the bands, at least back in the day, loved violence, and they wanted the
audience to beat the shit out of each other and go commit murders cuz evil, or whatever. Gaahl was into this aesthetic. This first came to light in 2002, when he served a year in prison for an assault he committed in 2000. He kept a lid on it in 2003, but 2004 was not an auspicious year for him.
Gaahl’s year of bad began in February when Gorgoroth played a show in Poland, and their show featured impaled sheep heads, satanic symbols, and a mock-crucifixion performed by women who were mostly naked except for the blood. Apparently it was so realistic and offended many people (I guess the people working concessions cuz I think you know what you’re getting into when you buy a ticket to one of these shitshows, right? So the audience was probably loving it).
A police investigation was launched with allegations of religious offense (which can be prosecuted under Polish law) and cruelty to animals. Although things looked dicey in the land of despair, the band ultimately wasn't charged. But they were dropped from a festival tour and by their label. I’d like to interject here and note that yes, using impaled animal heads as part of your stage act, real ones according to my research, is repulsive and wrong, and they probably should be in jail if the animals were killed for decoration, but it reads like Gorgoroth’s animals heads stayed on the stage. The band I’m going to tell you about later actually tossed THEIR animal heads into the audience. And one time fractured a guy’s skull. Can you imagine explaining that injury to people - well, I was at a concert and the lead singer drilled me in the head with a dead sheep head.
By the time March rolled around, Gaahl was obviously in a bad mood. In May of that year, he received a prison sentence for aggravated assault. Which he appealed. That didn't work and he was re-sentenced to fourteen months in prison the next year. The details are a little scarce, at least in English, but this incident reportedly happened in February 2002, the same month they got in trouble for the Polish satanic orgy. It was during what was described as a late-night party at Gaahl's house in Norway, where he got into a physical confrontation with a male guest. Gaahl was convicted for beating the stuffing out of this guy, and then, torturing him for a long time, while collecting his blood into a cup and threatening to make him drink it. The guy demurred, so Gaahl himself supposedly had a couple of sips. You know, blood tastes like pennies. It’s not tasty. What’s the draw?
The victim guy lived to tell the tale and Gaahl went to the fengsel, which is Norwegian for jail.
About his crime, Gahh; later said "I was the one who was attacked, but they think I punished him too hard. As I always say, when people cross my line and I let them know where the line is many steps before they cross it, and still they choose to cross it, then I will be the one to decide what their punishment will be". Whoa.
He also claimed to have given the man the cup "so that he would not make such a mess in my house with all the blood". Just because you’re named Gaahl and sing about ending the world for Satan, doesn’t mean you’re not a neat freak. Gaahl was in prison from April to December 2006.
Gaahl later launched a fashion collection for women in partnership with designer Sonia Wu, and a Norwegian modeling agent. Who was a guy. Whom the music press noted he was unusually close with.In fact, it was revealed they had been in a relationship starting post-jail in 2006. Gaahl came out in the November 2008 issue of Rock Hard magazine. Fitting!
But, people should realize a guy torturing people and collecting their blood is not the one. The modeling got some death threats over the gay thing from some black metal fans who thought Gahhl liking the D was ruining the aesthetic or something, i don't know, i always thought Satan was blamed for homosexuality, and weren’t they bigon Satan, so make up your mind idiots. All this negativity was getting to Gaahl.
At a music festival, some guy backstage opened his mouth with some bullshit about his sexuality and Gahhl responded by putting him in the hospital. Ok, violence is never the answer unless you or a loved one or a kid or an animal is endangered,l but I do love a story where a gay guy slaps the shit out of a fool. Gaahl denied this story in a magazine interview and when asked about how his coming out would affect his evil noise shrieking, said
“Mankind is known to be narrow-minded, so ... maybe some [will have a negative reaction]. But I guess it will even out the score in a way. I think it will be positive for some and negative for some. It's always good to have some negatives as well. Otherwise you would end up with equality and equality is the worst thing in the world. Equality is stagnation. It doesn't let anything grow. It holds back”
Ok, I was onboard until that last bit. Maybe it was a translation issue. Oh, and as for the Satan stuff, it’s sort of an Aleister Crowley thing for Gaahl. Who you can learn about in Episode 43, and if you DO listen, I apologize in advance cuz’ that should have been a two-parter or maybe not as long.
About the prince of darkness,Gaahl said:
“We use the word 'Satanist' because it is Christian world and we have to speak their language. To the world I am a satanist, which means resistance to everything that holds you down. [...] When I use the word 'Satan' it means the natural order, the will of a man, the will to grow, the will to become the superman and not to be oppressed by any law such as the church, which is only a way to control the masses.”
Oh, and he also thinks the official church of Satan is a bunch of weak people flocking like rats, afraid of standing alone. Gahhl is kind of his own deity.
So that’s Gaahl, and which means this podcast’s queer box got checked off. Now let’s get into some real Mayhem. Literally. They’re the reason why all the churches in Norway are equipped with fire suppression systems.
Mayhem was founded in 1984 by guitarist Destructor who later changed his name to the famous "Euronymous” (there’s no need to tell you these are the death metal equivalents of G.I. Joe code names, right?), Also in the mix was bassist and vocalist Necrobutcher, Membership rotated a little and they were eventually joined by guys named Messiah (that’s a little presumptuous) Maniac, and their first EP, came out in 87 and was called Deathcrush, released through Euronymous' newly formed label Posercorpse Music.
The ep sold out, and Euronymous who was quickly emerging as the group’s leader changed the name of the record label from posercorpse to the slightly more graceful Deathlike Silence, and he opened what became a somewhat famed record store (at least when the churches started burning down) called Hell in Olso, which btw is the capital of Norway.
Within just a few months [of Hell opening], many young musicians became obsessed with Euronymous and his ideas, and soon a lot of Norwegian heavy metal and death metal bands transformed into black metal bands. Yes, there’s layers to this cacophony.
These were not nice people, particularly their leader who supported totalitarianism and opposed compassion, peace, happiness, and fun. He actually listed those. This dude hated fun. And if he had to have fun, it was the kind of fun that involved impaling a sheep’s head on a stick.
Euronymous began to call their little group the Black Circle and it was a little culty. Everyone wanted to be true evil, and the worst of the worst and it was like edgelord central over there. And what better way to show how bad they were then to burn down churches. And they really went for it.
In 1992, members of the Norwegian black metal scene initiated a wave of arson attacks on Christian churches across the country. By 1996, there had been at least 50. It became trendy, like ordering useless shit off Temu or that new one where you sit during a plane ride and you just stare directly in front of you and dont read or watch tv or have sex in the bathroom. Imagine?
In every case that was solved, those responsible were identified as either black metal musicians or fans.Some of the targeted buildings were hundreds of years old and regarded as significant historical landmarks. The first was Norway's Fantoft Stave Church, which was reduced to ashes in June 1992. THe cops thought a black metal musician named Varg aka Count Griznach was responsible for inciting people to burn and committing arsons himself, and the cover of one of his band’s EPs featured a photograph of a burnt out church. Throw the book at him.
Varg would eventually be found guilty of murder but alongside that, in 1994, he was found guilty of burning down a chapel and two churches. Additionally, he was convicted of an attempted arson of a fourth church and for the theft and storage of 150 kg of explosives.
People came and went in this band Mayhem, including Varg. They got a new vocalist named Dead, who would end up Dead, you heard about him in the open, and they got a drummer called hellhammer, which, that's like the one silly code name that makes sense in this shit.
As reported earlier, Dead was all about the extreme ghoulish stuff, and the band took his lead in wearing corpse makeup, to make them look like Kiss but KISS as vampire hell zombies wearing animal bones, and their shows started to incorporate fucked up shit like blood g and Satanic masses and ugh animal parts like sheep and pigs heads. Mayhem decided that the audience wanted and needed to be splattered in blood and entrails. I think Mayhem should open for Taylor on her next tour.
Dead was really into it, he’d even use hunting knives and broken glass to cut himself on stage. Hellhammer later said that Dead would bury his clothes in the ground overnight before wearing them to perform so he looked dug up, Ok, enough, he really wanted to look as much like a corpse as possible. And instead of cries for help, I mean the dude was carrying around a ziplock full of musty dead poultry to snort, this just made them grosser and more popular to the fans.
And then in 1990, Mayhem moved into a house in the forest to rehearse and write songs for their next satanic mass soundtrack. Dead and Euronymous were not getting along. And when you’re in a Norwegian black metal band, not getting along is less leaving them off of group texts and more firing at them with a shotgun. Which Euronymous did after Dead went to sleep outside one night because he detested the synthesizer music Euronymous kept playing. Dead later retaliated by stabbing Euronymous. You know like when NSync broke up.
So things weren’t great at Mayhem Manor. Dead was reportedly in a deep depression, and sadly on April 8, 1991 he took his own life as detailed in the opening. And yes, Euronymous took some souvenir photos. Dead’s suicide note read in part "nobody will ever understand this, but as a sort of explanation, I am not human, this is only a dream and soon I will awake
Euronmyous set about using Dead’s suicide (which btw he had reportedly encouraged Dead to do) to see the band, and make them look even more dark and evil then they already had. He spun a story that Dead had taken his own life because he was disgusted by the commercialization of black metal, and ok, you heard it, I’m not sure there’s a way to commercialize that, unless Hell has Spotify.
Euronymoius also spread the rumor that he himself had made a stew with Dead’s brains, and necklaces from his skull fragments. They later said the stew thing didn't happen, but said the skull necklaces were the satan’s honest truth. Euronymous had reportedly given necklaces to other black metal musicians whom he thought worthy of his favor. And in 2018, a fragment of Dead’s skull was up for sale for $3500 online, accompanied by a letter from Euronymous claiming authenticity.
But the ultimate desecration was in 1995 when one of Euronymous’ photos ended up as the cover to a bootleg live album of Mayhem’s. Euronyous was dead by then so he didn't do it but that's a real dickhead thing to do. Ugh, edgelords.
Necrobutcher who wasnt with them, got a call from Euronymous about Dead’s passing:
Necro said that “he called me up the next day ... and says, "Dead has done something really cool! He killed himself." I thought, have you lost it? What do you mean cool? He says, "Relax, I have photos of everything." I was in shock and grief. He was just thinking how to exploit it. So I told him, "OK. Don't even fucking call me before you destroy those pictures."
You know despite the silly name, Necrobutcher at least sounds like he has some form of morals. But they dont extend to a non-murder rule.
In a 2019 interview, Necrobutcher, who had left the band before Dead’s unaliving, revealed that HE was thinking of murdering his bandmate Euronymous due to his treatment of Dead. But someone beat him to it. I’m getting to it.
So Mayhem was down a singer, ant why got a new one who went by the name Occultus but his stint with Mayhem was short because Euonymus threatened to kill him and this was the kind of scene where it could actually happen. So he dipped. In late 92, Mayhem added three new members, Count Grishnackh aka Varg, Blackthorn, and a singer who went by Attila. Their new album was finished and to publicize it, Euronymous planned to blow up a cathedral. But his murder put that plan to rest.
Count Griznach aka Varg murders Euronymous on August 10h 1993, That night, THe Count and Blackthorn drove over 300 miles to Euronymous’ place in Oslo. When they got there, there was a scuffle which led to the Count stabbing Euronymous 23 times.
Well, it sounds like something he would have appreciated for the publicity alone. Count Griznack, aka Varg claimed that he killed Euronymous because his bandmate was plotting to torture HIM to death (jesus probably on stage), oh and videotape it.
Varg also claimed that most of Euronymous's stab wounds were inflicted by broken glass he fell onto during the struggle. 23 times. He was arrested and a few months later, he was sentenced to 21 years in prison, which is the maximum sentence in Norway, for both the murder and church arsons;Count Griznach aka Varg was paroled in 2009. Blackthorn, who waited for Varg downstairs while he was stabbing his bandmate to death and played no role in the crime, I don't even think he was driving, was charged with complicity and sentenced to eight years in prison. For waiting downstairs. Be choosy in the company you keep, everyone. Anyway, only Attilla and Hellhammer were left and thus, Mayhem officially retired their sheeps heads. And yeah, in another interview, the very troubled Necrobutcher revealed that he not only planned to kill Euronymous himself. He had been on the way to his place to do it that night. Varg aka Count Griznach murder-blocked him! Here’s what he had to say.
“OK, I can tell it right now, because I've been holding it in for many years, but actually I was on my way down to kill him myself. And when it happened, I saw the morning paper, thinking 'Fuck, I gotta get home to my place and get out all the weapons and drugs and shit I had in my house, because they're coming to my house because I'm probably going to be the No. 1 suspect for this.' But little did I know that the Norwegian police already knew that Count Grishnackh [Varg] was going down also to kill him. Because they bugged his phone, and he actually talked about this killing before he went to Bergen so the cops already knew that he was coming, so they probably were thinking to themselves, 'We didn't nail this guy for the church burnings, so let's nail him for murder, and get rid of this fucking guy in Oslo the same time.' So that's basically what happened”
Mayhem’s final album was released in 1994, it was called De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and dedicated to Euronymous. Its delay was because Euronymous’ folks didn't want Count Griznach’s bass lines on the record. Hellhammer had assured them that they wouldn't be. He lied. So the album features music from the murdered and his murderer.
Iterations of Mayhem happened throughout the years, with different band members taking part. There was even a tour planned in 2022, but there was a problem getting visas to play here in the States. So the people who live next to the club dont have to worry about screams summoning Asmodeus to eat the neighborhood.
But that wast it for Norwegian black metal leading to horrifying crimes. On August 21 1992, a black metal musician known as "Faust" murdered one Magne Andreassen, a gay man, in Lillehammer. Yeah, where they held the Olympics that time.
According to Faust, while walking home at night, Magne hit on him, and Faust agreed to walk with him to the Olympic park.
Now most of us, if propositioned and not into it, would politely demur and that would hopefully be it. Keep it demure, keep it mindful, keep it pumping queen. Faust didn't take that route. Once in the woods, Faust stabbed Andreassen 37 times, then proceeded to kick him in the head repeatedly as he lay on the ground. Great guy.
Faust claimed that he felt no remorse at the time. His gay panic defense didnt work, btw. In the late 1990s, he reflected on the murder, stating, "I was outside, just waiting to get out some aggression. It's not easy to describe why it happened. It was meant to happen, and if it was this man or another man, that's not really important."
One of his bandmates said that Faust "had been very fascinated by serial killers for a long time, and I guess he wanted to know what it's like to kill a person.” What a complete asshole. " Supposedly Faust eventually expressed remorse for what he did. He’s out of prison now by the way. In a 2008 interview, he stated, "I was never a Satanist or fascist in any way, but I put behind me the hatred and negativity. Those feelings just eat you up from inside." If only you could have done that before the 37 stab wounds.
Oh fun fact, the day after he murdered that poor horny man, Faust joined COunt Count Griznach aka Varg and Euronymous in burning down a church. It was a wonderful time to be alive in Norway, the 90s.
Well, that’s the early Norwegian black metal scene. It’s still a genre of music to this day, but there’s much less burning of houses of worship.
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